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Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 13:26:00 - [1] He's right, you don't need purples to play EvE, blues will suffice. R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 13:38:00 - [2] Originally by: idea Very nice article but just post by your CCP staff name And suddenly, everyone thinks everyone is a CCP alt. Also, this thread has been graced by Chribba's presence. Bow down to your Veldspar overlord now. R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 13:50:00 - [3] Originally by: idea Lols! another CCP staff on standby with his response Everyone stand back while I feed the troll. Because if you have read most of what I say on these forums, you can tell I'm a CCP alt alright... R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 14:01:00 - [4] Originally by: Hestia Mar In support of my earlier response to this thread; there's a new thread in Ships and Modules titled "Tackler Options", and the first question the OP asks is 'What does tackling entail?'... I think that proves my point? H Not at all, they could have 100mil sp and not know what tackling means, having more SP isn't going to teach you anything. Having more EXPERIENCE does teach you things, and being in corps and/or going to low/null fighting is what teaches you and gives you the experience to know what those things are and be able to do them effectively. A good ship is nothing without a good pilot. A good pilot is still very deadly even with a bad ship. R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 14:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Hestia Mar Lets use a reasoned argument here - they have 100M SP and don't know what tackling is? Pardon? What I'm saying is that SP doesn't determine your skill. At equal skill levels, yes the pilot with more SP will be better, but you don't learn how to effectively tackle/pvp/whatever by staying in hisec and waiting until you can fly a ceptor. You learn by going to low in frigs and dying a lot. Whatever the reason you died was, you learn not to do that again, so when you do finally get your ceptor, you don't lose it over and over, you know what you're doing by then. For another example, lets apply this to sports, you can read every book there is about baseball and know everything there is to know about it, but if you can't catch/hit a ball, does any of that even matter? R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 14:31:00 - [6] Originally by: Mr LaForge No such thing as new players. only new alts. That accusation is 99.9% accurate. R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 14:35:00 - [7] Originally by: Thornat Ok I wasnt going to say anything, but you said it for me.. I was like? If play Eve for that long and you don't know what tackling is, you have either purchased your account, or have been hiding in a hanger avoiding eye contact with the chat box. By than you would have learned the term by accident at least. The point wasn't that a person had 100mil SP, the point was that no amount of SP teaches you what tackling is. You have to go out and do it or at the VERY least, have someone teach you. Originally by: SilentSkills I disagree, and its from personal experience. You cannot make money in a t1 frigate in 0.0. It's unpractical, plus a newbie player that is still in a t1 frigate probably has no grasp on basic game concepts that the tutorial gives you (besides the free destroyer). And also, the point isn't to make money in a T1 frig, the point is to learn in a T1 frig, so when you get the T2, you don't lose it often and you can make money in it. R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 14:52:00 - [8] Originally by: Thornat Well I think what SilentSkills was saying was a two part answer. You cannot make money in a T1 Frigate in 0.0... <---period.... Next setence. "Its Unpractical". Another words. You can't make money, hence your only going to take losses. You aren't going to live long enough to learn anything... and you are likely to be even more confused since your going out their without even basic concepts, let alone the advanced knowledge just to get around in 0.0 required. I mean imagine jumping into a system and finding a bubble... What does a newbie know about a bubble.. nothing. what does he learn when he goes into 0.0 and see's a bubble.. that you get blown up. What does he gather from this experiance. Don't go into 0.0 if you don't want to get blown up. The point Im making is telling newbs to get in a frigate to learn how to play Eve in 0.0 is like sending would be soldiers to a war to learn how to fight one. The only thing you will learn is not to go their, an impression that may very well turn you off of ever going again permenantly. This is true, but you can only be taught so much by other players, and training skills honestly is useless if you don't know what they're for. And after you are taught as much as possible, that still doesn't make you skillful at PvP, it makes you knowledgeable at it. Knowing how to do things doesn't stop you from just freezing up in those first few PvP fights, you have to go out and fight to get the experience so you don't freeze up and do nothing when you're in an expensive ship. R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 15:01:00 - [9] Originally by: Thornat Originally by: Takamori Maruyama I got 950k SP and 25 mill isk. Well 25 million isk is certainly sufficient to affort a few T1 frigate losses. Have you braved 0.0 or low sec? Any PvP? Any PvP success? Whats being a newbie like in Eve these days? Thornat, remember: Originally by: Mr LaForge No such thing as new players. only new alts. R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 16:19:00 - [10] Originally by: Hestia Mar I know what you are getting at, but they called 'Skill Points' after all! However the argument about going into lo-sec and dying a lot is a poor one as well - I wonder how many games use 'join the game and get killed a lot' as a marketing hook? Not many I suspect! I seem to remember there was a thread running about a year ago, with a title like "In 2 years I'll be able to play EVE", and I still think that just about summed this problem up. (Anyway Cpt Greagor since you brought baseball up - why does a hitter on a 3-0 count take the next pitch as a strike? Swing the bat FFS!) H I honestly no nothing about baseball, that was purely for an example. And the dying a lot isn't a key thing to do, but being new, it will happen, and that's how you learn. R A I N B O W S

Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.09 16:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Magnus Veyr Originally by: Hestia Mar I do not understand/enjoy pvp (but that's a separate discussion lol) so I enjoy other aspects of EVE. While everyone is free to play as he likes and people have different interests and goals; not understanding PVP is a choice, nothing more. It's not some hidden magical knowledge that's passed down via heathen rituals or something, it comes from the will to master it, nothing more. So if you say "I don't know pvp therefore I stay away from it" you mean "I'm not interested so I stay away from it. If you actually meant "I would love to have a go but I can't do it so oh well" then you're doing it wrongÖ You left out the part where she said "I think PvP is a broken mechanic" R A I N B O W S
Cpt Greagor Caldari Liquid Relief	Posted - 2011.08.10 11:21:00 - [12] Originally by: Darod Zyree OP is wrong, the biggest misconception for most is obviously how to spell the name of this game => EVE If you're going to be an asshat and get all technical, it is EVE Online. R A I N B O W S

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